Not all members had surgebinding. [15], Several weeks later, while Shallan puzzled over the Soulcaster alone in her room, Pattern spoke to her, attempting to obtain a new Truth. The Ghostbloods could well be the culprits which would seem fitting in some ways, as her father and brother seem to have both ended up in the same organisation. It is too vague for me. Early in OB Pattern is trying to get Shallan to progress through her ideals, and she says she used him to kill her mother. After being disposed of, Shallan snuck away and escaped the palace, having Pattern draw away the guards in her path. Her mothers arrival, with a friend Shallan didnt recognize, to confront her father. Tag had worried about the trouble Shallan could cause and suggested that they should abandon her and move on, however, Tvlakv disagreed, instead seeing the opportunity to hold her hostage and earn a reward. Above, he found the crew members of the Wind's Pleasure, one of them dead and the rest tied up and at the mercy of the attackers. "But" said the male initiate. He thinks he could understand peoplethrough the lies they want to be told. On their way to the Breakaway, Pattern mentioned his approval of Adolin, despite the fact that he had bonded a dead Shardblade. Jasnah still doesnt believe her, so Shallan calls upon one of the symbol head creatures. Mother calling Shallan one of them. And then later Soulcasts a goblet into blood. ), Shallan un-bonds Testament (or maybe gem is destroyed). [11] Though he was not the Shardblade she used to kill her mother when her mother tried to kill her,* Pattern was present in the aftermath, perceived by Shallan to be glowing from the cracks within her father's strongbox. 2) Ghostbloods and Testament were after Mishram. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. By the end of Words of Radiance, Adolin is 25 years old. Or at least it was indicated. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Yes, you will probably see this some day. It is all right, because in the morning, you each return to sentience. He says his real name is a series of numbers and agrees to Pattern as being sufficient enough a name. [6] Pattern is unable to turn completely invisible like honorspren, but he can blend in with the surface he currently inhabits such that only people who are looking for him will notice his presence. [13], Her attempt at building a fire a failure, Shallan decided to walk inland, Pattern at her feet and eventually the pair stumbled upon the campsite of Tvlakv and his fellow slavers, where Shallan, exhausted, collapsed. Based on what we know, I believe he did in fact find them. I wish you luck with yours. That the transition wastraumatic. We know that there are 16 shards in total, and we know that Odium has killed 4 of them (Ambition, Honor, Devotion, and Dominion). She really is just a rural lighteyes of not much consequence. I personally think her mother new full well what she was and sought to kill her to prevent the return of the voidbringers. "You were talking about mating! It gives you strength. [24][25], Eventually, the storm passed and Shallan met with Tyn to learn what she could of her homeland. Shardplate adds a few inches to his height but still doesnt make him as tall as Kaladin. But Jofwu is right on the money. I seem to remember some passage from WoR that describes the spirit of shallans dead mother shining from a hiding place in the wall of her father's study. When Adolin arrived, bearing gifts of food and books, Shallan formally introduced him to Pattern, who was then named as chaperone for the evening. [8], In the Cognitive Realm, Pattern appears as a tall and willowy creature clad in a robe made of a stiff material. Its a requirement for the Knights Radiant. Additionally, Shallan has her memories with Testament, including Testament's death. Your truth is what you see. So who was he? After leaving the Oathgate platform, Shallan went to visit the street urchin Grund, to drop off her excess food. Its tiny lines twisted and turned through its mass, somehow lifting the surface of the wood, like iron scrollwork under a taut tablecloth. So Pattern was capable of becoming a blade before she spoke the truth about killing her mother. [7], When it became apparent that Tyn would not allow Shallan to get away, Pattern hastened to find Vathah to bring him and his men to Shallan's aid. What I'm saying is: I think Pattern was talking to Mraize. Pattern saying he wa sure she'd kill him, but then saying they'd send a replacement. I'm with Nameless here, I don't think the blade was there at all. It's easy! Pattern is a spren on Roshar. Tom Doherty Associates. Dread overload from all directions, making the entire situation seem helpless. I'm not really sure what Dreder refers to, but it is only lightly implied and not stated that he was the person accompanying Shallan's mother during the incident. Hmmm ok looking through it. Her subsequent sketch seemingly helped to anchor Pattern, and he was able to completely transition from the Cognitive. [2], Pattern, eager to learn more about human reasoning, was curious as to why Shallan had decided to continue on to the Shattered Plains and try to seek Urithiru. Although Pattern did no damage to the creature in his blade form, the Unmade pulled back from the control building and retreated. There hid a monster. DID/Dissociative Identity Disorder is the term that replaced MPD/Multiple Personality Disorder. Jasnah was murdered by mercenaries associated with Tyn who were trying to get into the Ghostbloods. The Holy Spirit gave insight to Peter about the true nature of Jesus. There is some overlap between whatever Shallan has and DID, but really her condition is quite different. She manages to use Lightweaving when she meets Wit as a child. The war was fought over control of the western Powder River Country in present north-central . She then describes him to Jasnah as a pattern of sharp lines, like a maze, impossibly formed on the surface of a wave in the water in which they were sailing on the Wind's Pleasure. Food not eaten." And Shallan begins to subconsciously lightweave a scene from her father's gardens with a pattern on the ground drawn in the dirt. Noone comes looking for him or seeking vengeance on his behalf. Hopefully she doesn't kill him too, but given there's probably hundreds or thousands of dead Cryptics that studying the situation with Shallan could aid, it's a risk they're willing to take. Shallan could be bonded to pattern without interacting with him yet. After Shallan began manifesting Surgebinding abilities at the age of eleven, [1] her mother and an associate attempted to kill Shallan. Billy Dee Williams stopped by the Wired Cafe at Comic-Con 2011 to tell us why his character in Star Wars, Lando Calrissian, betrayed Han Solo, and how he's h. That type of character will not lead to a deep hatred of the one that they bonded. Pattern is a spren on Roshar. Who, then? I cannot betray this secret, Mraize said. A: And so they enter Lasting Integrity: Adolin, Shallan, Pattern, Maya, and Gallant. [49][50], He came at me, in the training rooms, screaming that youd found the killer. He says his real name is a series of numbers and agrees to Pattern as being sufficient enough a name.[1]. When Shallan kills Tyn shes bonded to Pattern - so if it was Testament then she should have heard Deadeye screaming like every time a Deadeye has been summoned by a Radiant. My question is, why? 5. Pattern translated during discussions, however the group had no luck in finding a vessel that would sail towards Cultivation's Perpendicularity. Pattern disagreed with Shallan's assessment that truth was universal, instead claiming that it was based on an individuals experiences. I'll RAFO that, but yes, there is some external influence there. 2. Shallan didn't hear the Shardblade scream when she summoned it, did she? Shallan has a bond with the Cryptic Pattern, allowing her to manifest Pattern as a Shardblade and giving her access to her powers as a Surgebinder. 7) Hence, Testament could have been working with the Ghostbloods. The spren called themselves Cryptics, Jasnah explained, though they would likely be called liespren if seen by other humans - a name of which they themselves were not fond. And remember. 2. And one truth to get the blade? So she at least had access to Pattern from speaking the I killed my father truth. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. Testament, an agent of the Ghostbloods, was killed before Shallans mother. Judas failed to understand who Jesus really was, even to the end. After Shallan was able to slip away, Pattern led her to the Herald, unlocking the door and allowing her to gain entry to the room. Shallan steals the Soulcaster before later finding out that it is a fake. When she went to see what had happened she accidentally drew the attention of several assassins after she witnessed one of them stab Jasnah through the chest. We never hear anything else about him except he was supposedly her mother's lover. Care to share with me what that foreshadowing was? From everything I know about DID, Shallan absolutely does not fit that disorder category at all. She died before her husband, who was later remarried to Malise Gevelmar. Shallan initially describes Pattern as " a sequence of complex lines with sharp angles and arrowhead shapes." But if they were the culprits, then why didnt her father sell her out? Though Jasnah initially tried to placate Shallan and send her away, the young woman stayed to talk. When Shallan reached out to touch the Unmade, Re-Shephir tried to remove her bond with Pattern, to instead replace him with herself. The Skybreakers wouldn't care about her at that point, as she was no longer a Radiant. Her father joined the Ghostbloods but didn't mention anything about Shallan. Jasnah tells Shallan that she thinks the parshmen are Voidbringers and that she's concerned they'll rebel in the future. He said I was very funny! Op is asking about Tyn, the ghost blood kind-of-agent that Shallan traveled with onthe way to the Shattered Plains and killed with a blade, not Lin her father. Once the food was gathered and lowered to the ground floor, he unlocked the dumbwaiter before moving off to distract Nananav's staff, disguised as a mink. We know Heleran sought out the Skybreakers per Mraize. Wit is sequestered away with Jasnah a lot of the time. Beginning their trek across the Tarat Sea towards Thaylenah, Pattern stayed near Shallan as she struggled to keep up with their companions. [4], "I find sleeping very odd," Pattern said. Though he stayed silent during the meeting with the Highprince's, Shallan found herself having to quiet him during her ride to Sebarial's camp, to prevent him being noticed by the Highprince. Sign up for a new account in our community. But it does actually line up with other information we have. And Tower was corrupted. You name several facts that I have overlooked / forgotten from that first frantic reading! And if you count an Unmade being there as being corrupted there was an Unmade in the Davar household. Remember too that Jasnah had heard of Shallan's mother and that there is a WoB that Shallan's mother was a person of some importance. Of course it's not entirely impossible that Wit has a Seon. Fair. Though he was confused by Shallan's behaviour towards Kaladin after the conclusion of the battle, Pattern ultimately agreed with Shallan's choice to continue with her marriage to Adolin. In doing so, Shallan realized that the Oathgate was a fabrial and using Pattern, she activated the platform, transporting those outside to Urithiru and saving the Alethi army. He attempted to pass the comment off with a lie, but when pressed by Shallan, admitted he was expecting to be killed by the young woman. Like Syl, Pattern initially acted playfully, reminiscent of a young child exploring the world. Pattern was pleased by the lies Yalb told aboard the Wind's Pleasure, deeming them to be good lies as they were based in truth. Some of your points are good though, like why Testament didn't scream or why she wasnt there for their first trip. A while later he was seen once more by Shallan as she spoke with Jasnah, this time floating on a wave. It started when she found out what I could do.. The glowing may be a clue to something more interesting or just great visual with a trivial explanation: because they have a connection, You vanished as soon as he closed the strongbox. And I don't see any proof that it was a delusion. Pattern was concerned and reminded her that Veil was only a disguise. Maybe general secret organizations feud or maybe the skybreakers are afraid that the ghostbloods action also might bring the desolations (although we haven`t seen it mentioned when we saw szeth with them). Meanwhile, Pattern went to Shallan's deserters for help, asking them to go fetch her. After Shallan made the mistake of trying to buy candied fruit with too large a denominator of sphere, Pattern fell behind to watch and see if she was being followed. After nearly drowning in the sea of beads, Shallan was saved by Jasnah who brought her back to her body in the Physical Realm. Could it be that he was talking about the dinner with Taravangian in TWoK where she ran off after drawing a cryptic in her painting and didn't eat her meal because of it? While Shallan ate, she attempted to explain the concept of taste to Pattern, who had been curious as to why she preferred some foods over others. The people my mother knewDredernever came to our house. Who is supposed to have spied on him? That his kind are too static. Realizing that she had been fooled, Tyn moved to kill Shallan. This is far from proof though, just what I think the most reasonable conclusion is for the identity of the "spy.". ** She also perceives Pattern as a monster during this time. Shallan was alarmed by the disembodied voice, but dismissed the sound, reasoning with herself that it had been caused by the maid who had been cleaning in the room next door. Or it could indicate that Shallan is crazy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/95749-theory-taln-wasnt-the-herald-who-broke-it-was-chanarach/. If I truly think about it I think Testament was an idea Brandon had writing book 4 that wasnt planned for as so much about it doesnt make sense with what weve previously been told about Deadeyes. Kaladin and Syl don't interact until the wagon scene in WoK, but we see him use his powers before then during a battle (Small glow and faster reflexes). I thinks it must be one of the groups that thinks the best way to stop the void bringers returning is to kill the surge binders. Like all radiant spren when they first entered the Physical Realm, the journey damaged Pattern, who lost much of his cognitive abilities becoming non-sapient and mindless. He has lied to Nale to help weaken the resistance to Odium. Do you find it pleasant? And remember. That can explain why the blade was in the strongbox for so long. I've seen a few comments here and there but thought it would be a good idea to pull them together as a separate discussion topic. Only relevant WoBs I can find are as follows: We know that Pattern was with Shallan before the murder of Shallan's mother. They werent designed into the system and thus are more of an accident. She tried to explain to Pattern that she didn't hate him, she hated the sword and what it represented. Jasnah wore the Davar Soulcaster for some time, not realizing it was broken since her own Soulcaster was a decoy. Stormlight Archive Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. On their way to All's Alley, Pattern calmed Shallan when she panicked, who briefly wondered if she had killed her brothers and had been lying to herself about their deaths. [9], Pattern is fascinated by concepts that mix truths and falsehoods, such as flattery, sarcasm, and even figures of speech like metaphors. Too convenient? In exchange for their protection and help against the bandits, she promised to absolve them of their debts once they had reached the Shattered Plains. I'm less sure that he actually joined them. 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