Simpson and Fritsch have a new book called "Crime In Progress." They spoke with FRESH AIR's Dave Davies. Become a BPI supporter today and join a passionate community that believes in the power of education. They have both been to prison. Fact: DAVIES: Yeah. Shot over four years in maximum and medium security prisons in New York State, the four-hour film takes viewers on a stark and intimate journey into one of the most pressing issues of our time our failure to provide meaningful rehabilitation for the over two million Americans living behind bars. I can give them different types of advice. And throughout this process, we're constantly talking with each other, helping each other out because on, like, the outside here, you have the Internet; our peers become the Internet. The subjects and filmmakers reveal how the power of education changes lives. We're going to start coursework Monday morning. Ill take care of the preliminaries, brush my teeth, get dressed, and I shoot straight to the Starbucks two blocks away. Rodney has been incarcerated for 17 years and is currently incarcerated at Fishkill. Both of you went into prison as teenagers and came out as young men. And then this changed in the '90s when we had the crime bill, right? "College Behind Bars" airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations. In 1993, Mr. Hall, then 17, was involved in a gunfight in Brooklyn, when a bullet fired toward him killed his neighbor instead. TATRO: No. (Video Courtesy ESPN, Monday Night Countdown. You're looking ahead. It raises questions we urgently need to address: What is prison for? It teaches you how smart you are. So there was this kind of seamless movement from one setting to another. And I never had really thought about going to college until, all of a sudden, there was this thing that I heard about in prison called the Bard Prison Initiative. When I look at the scenes of the classroom in the documentary - it's a four-part documentary, and there are a lot of scenes - these classes are a lot more orderly and focused than I remember any of my college or high school classes being. So it has a ripple effect even beyond people applying to just - you know, the facilities where there is higher education have less incidence of violence and disruption and things like that. Everyone that we got to know well took full responsibility for what happened and explained the context in which it happened and how they are reckoning with it today. By signing up for BPI emails, you are agreeing to receive news and updates from BPI. James Herriots adventures as a veterinarian in 1930s Yorkshire get a new TV adaptation. And you can learn grammar. Tell me how the experience compared with what you expected. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. When we come home now, we often help each other get jobs. Men and women in prison for serious crimes try to earn college degrees in this groundbreaking story of incarceration, injustice, race in America, and the transformative power of education. But in reality, out here, the degrees matter. And so, you know, this experience has not only been personally rewarding and amazing for me. On November 24, 1990, James Wiley armed himself with a shotgun and brutally shot down his stepmother and two brothers in their home in Thermopolis, Wyoming. But I thought what just happened in the auditorium was also reality. TATRO: They are like, congratulations. Creating educational opportunities in prison nationwide. Our associate producer of digital media is Molly Seavey-Nesper. The bipartisan restoration of Pell Grant eligibility to incarcerated students is a clear political endorsement of the value of college-in-prison, signaling to New York that it is past time to also restore TAP. The journey to bring "College Behind Bars" started in 2012, when Novick and producer Sarah Botstein were invited to give a lecture for BPI students. NOVICK: And I think - just to put the button or the final note is that the recidivism rates for the general population are between 50% and 60%. I have several friends who are still incarcerated that I spent my summers outside of class tutoring, and they're now in the program. And this is a moment from the film after the graduation ceremony, which we just saw, where I guess, Sebastian, you got your degree and, Dyjuan, you were attending but you're reflecting on what it's like to finish this joyous event and then leave the prison auditorium and then return to the housing unit where you will be rudely searched and then go back to your cells. My mother left me and my siblings when I was 5, so my dad raised us three - my older brother and my sister - by himself. This film is about the transformative power of education while also confronting and challenging conventional thinking about the purpose of both education and incarceration. I mean, Dyjuan, I think you had a brother who had been - a younger brother who'd struggled and had been incarcerated at some point. "College Behind Bars" follows students in the Bard Prison Initiative, a privately funded college program that began in 2001 in New York state prisons. The documentary, "College Behind Bars," airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations and will also be available for streaming. YOON: Two more years after my bachelor's degree in 2017. TATRO: Having a liberal arts education has made me a much deeper thinker. At BPI, we are committed to investing in people, reinventing institutions and making genuine education more accessible. While I have little tastes for things, I dont make an elaborate breakfast. I mean, I think, you know, having taught in the program myself, you walk into class, and the students are there. When Bard Prison Initiative Students Debated Harvard. Who among us is capable of academic excellence? GROSS: Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, our guests will be Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch, the former Wall Street Journal reporters who formed Fusion GPS, a private research company. You know, I am originally from Albany, N.Y. Helping prisoners go to college helps New York, Press Release: TURN ON THE TAP NY PRAISES GOVERNOR HOCHUL FOR INCLUDING TUITION ASSISTANCE FOR INCARCERATED NEW YORKERS IN BUDGET, WBAIs On the Count The Prison And Criminal Justice Report, BPI and College Behind Bars in The Appeal, College Behind Bars with Max Kenner and Sebastian Yoon. College Behind Bars, an Emmy-nominated, four-part documentary about the transformative power of education. And when I actually started my courses, I was shocked by how rigorous and how demanding the program was. I grew up in a single-parent household, the child of a disabled mother. These programs transform the negative impacts of criminal punishment and create radical inroads of access and opportunity to higher learning. it is the only time that they can trust they . TATRO: You know, I'm not taking it back to my cell and going to sleep with it. Our guests are Lynn Novick, who directed the documentary, and Dyjuan Tatro and Sebastian Yoon, two graduates of the program. They've earned college degrees and are now employed. Learn more about this important amendment to the Merit Board rules, and its disproportionate impact on incarcerated women, on our blog. So people in the corrections department recognize that as well. The College: Comprehensive Academic Engagement. Theres Filipino food, theres Indian cuisine, theres Turkish cuisine, theres Asian food, theres Greek restaurants, theres a diversity. YOON: My family has been super supportive of me, as you'll see in the documentary, especially my father. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. Recidivism rates skyrocketed for a variety of reasons, including this, and slowly, some privately funded programs started to come back in. Virtually none return to prison. College-in-prison, which had been common in prisons across the country, collapsed. The recent PBS series, College Behind Bars, chronicles Mr. Halls eventual parole and release in 2015. That means that 50% to 60% of the 630,000 people who get out of prison every year are back in prison in three years. I mean, both - from the documentary, it seems that both of you had supportive families. This movement took on renewed urgency following Congresss reinstatement of Pell Grant access to incarcerated students in 2020. It is a marvelous new film by @KenBurns, @LynnNovick, and @sbotstein! For more information about ways to support the Bard Prison Initiative, please visit our Support page or contact bpidevelopment@bard.edu. I'm a college student. DAVIES: You know, I was going to ask about relations with, you know, other prisoners. The majority were first arrested as minors. And I am the most proud father in the world. And as I move forward in life and as I work to be a part of this social justice reform movement, I feel very passionate about it and excited that we are going to make progress. And fewer than 4% have gone back to prison. College Behind Bars is a production of Skiff Mountain Films and is directed by Lynn Novick. Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; Meg & Tomas Bergstrand; Regina K. Scully; The Lise More, Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; But as we got to know the students, we began to understand the circumstances of their lives, which, as you say, were complicated, sometimes tragic, often involved exposure to violence and other tragic experiences. Justice in America Episode 29: Schools in Prison Its about two miles away. And the Bard Prison Initiative has had 600 graduates be released over the last 20 years. But I'm wondering, was there a point at which it just seemed hard to adjust? It took me six years to get from where I was to where Bard was. It was seeing what happens when students are first confronted with material that seems really daunting, and they have to learn to think critically and express ideas that are kind of uncomfortable and that over time you see them - they're - you know, their thinking and expression becomes sharper and more sophisticated. NOVICK: Yes, indeed. I have watched them leave prison and have to struggle in ways that I have not because I have had the privilege of a college education. We will continue our conversation after this short break. And one of the reasons that we had to focus so hard and have that - the discipline that we had in this program is so that we could focus on the work and get the work done in a place where there's a lot of stress, pressure and distractions. DAVIES: There was a time when higher education in correctional facilities was pretty common. GROSS: FRESH AIR's executive producer is Danny Miller. And I got there, and I took the entrance exam and sat in my cell and waited for the acceptance letter. Roberta Shorrock directs the show. DAVIES: We're talking about the new PBS documentary "College Behind Bars" with Lynn Novick, the director, and with Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, two formerly incarcerated graduates of the Bard Prison Initiative. DAVIES: And that's from the documentary "College Behind Bars," directed by our guest Lynn Novick. We should not expect that they are only capable of vocational training. fevereiro 17, 2023; Posted by nene leakes father alan; 17 . So let's just listen to this. And, you know, they're like, strip. While Rodney and Sebastian complete their 100-page senior projects and present them to fac, Men and women in prison for serious crimes try to earn college degrees in this groundbreaking story of incarceration, inju, When incarcerated students from the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI) Debate Union beat a team from Harvard, their victory made. SAVOR I usually order a venti Pike, not too strong. I'm going to get emotional. And before the 1994 Clinton crime bill, there were college programs in almost every correctional facility in America. And I'm wondering - I'm going to ask Sebastian. Siena Poll Today Showed Huge, Bipartisan Majorities For Programs That Lower Barriers to Incarcerated New Yorkers Re-Entering Society TATRO: You know, this - I'm the first person in my family who's ever gone to college. So how long does this take? This is not me. 56 views, 2 likes, 3 loves, 4 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from New&Living Way Gospel Temple: Sunday service DAVIES: There was a time when higher education in correctional facilities was pretty common. So currently, I work as a program specialist with the Democracy Fund of Open Society Foundations, which is one of the biggest philanthropic organizations in the world. YOON: Oh, yeah, without a doubt. And at the age of 10, my family - once my dad made enough money, we moved to Long Island. Josie Duffy Rice and co-host Derecka Purnell are joined by Dyjuan Tatro '18 andReadMore, The Bard Prison Initiative is a revolutionary program that provides a rigorous college education to men and women in prison. But one of the things that was also great - there are instances where the other prisoners would accommodate us, where they would say, you know, the Bard guys are working at this table; let's go over here and make noise, or, like, the Bard guys are in the room - in their rooms studying. Yoon and Tatro earned college degrees taking rigorous courses taught by Bard College faculty in a maximum-security prison. 1. So you can be in class midway, and if the bell rings because the count was off or if there's a security problem, then you have to go back to your cells. Episodes. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Faculty are going to be evaluating what you do as a student, exclusively. Your support helps make this possible. College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary film series directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick, produced by Sarah Botstein, and executive produced by Ken Burns, tells the story of a small group of incarcerated men and women struggling to earn college degrees and turn their lives around in one of the most rigorous and effective prison education programs in the United States the Bard Prison Initiative. As a result, the number of college-in-prison programs in New York. Creating educational opportunities in prison nationwide. For 26 years, BPI joined other advocates in championing the return of Pell eligibility for incarcerated students. Because when people ask that question or that question's being asked, that's usually the implicit assumption, that they are only capable of this level of education. But I had no life experience to bring to that. But first, we need you to sign in to PBS using one of the services below. In four years of study they become scholars, shatter stereotypes, reckon with their pasts, and prepare to return to society. And I kind of froze in place and just looked around the room and just felt really, really inspired. I wish you continued success. And what were the circumstances that that landed you in this prison? YOON: For me, a liberal arts education cultivated in me conceptual and intellectual openness that invited me to consider worlds outside of my world from different times, thought and space. . Of course, I recognize where this comes from: I wasnt around children for 22 years. DAVIES: And have you both stayed in touch with folks you knew from the program and helped - people you helped? Kind of how large are the classes? Starbucks is a place where people dont notice each other; theyre more focused on their computer or their phone. You've just tried to add this show to My List. DAVIES: Wow. By Megan Heintz. The type of things that are available to people in prison currently are somewhat outdated. The recent PBS series, " College Behind Bars ," chronicles Mr. Hall's eventual parole and release in 2015. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Few people know the joy of a free Sunday like Jule Hall. CONTACT: Eric Koch | ericdkoch@gmail.com You are Korean American, right? But first, we need you to sign in to PBS using one of the services below. College Behind Bars was filmed over four years at two different prisons by Novick and producer Sarah Botstein, allowing the show to follow what happens to students in BPI: some transform,. I'm going to ask each of you to give me your first impressions here. Since 2001, BPI has created groundbreaking opportunities for college within Americas prison systems. We always have to be mindful of how those people like myself are returning back to their communities and back to their families. And so yeah, that is a huge impediment to trying to learn. Ken Burns is executive producer. Yoon and Tatro both entered prison as teenagers, and both earned bachelor's degrees in the Bard Prison Initiative. I mean, anybody who watches this film will think, gosh, I don't know if I could handle this stuff. "We all have. "College Behind Bars" airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations and will be available for streaming. But that means a lot that weren't - probably some applied and did not get in. College Behind Bars is perhaps one of the best documentaries that Ive seen about criminal justice in the past 5 years. So it's just - it's really an open question. WebCollege Behind Bars, which airs on PBS Monday and Tuesday night, offers TV audiences a rare window into the U.S. correctional system. This is a full-time and long-term and total commitment. DAVIES: It's to literally count to ensure that every inmate is is accounted for. And you see people on this kind of, like, exponential learning curve from places where they, you know, might not seem at first glance that they're ready for "college work," quote, unquote. And because the coffees so bad, we overcompensate with sugar or creamer. My family took care of me for 12 years while I was in prison, and now I'm in a position in life where I can support and be there for them. I had to write that I swept and mopped floors. TATRO: And so I got to walk across the stage on Bard's Annandale campus with the other 400 students in my year in 2018. "College Behind Bars" airs on PBS stations tonight and tomorrow. And that had been true for over a generation, and it was well understood and accepted that education was an essential part of criminal justice and of rehabilitation. Become a BPI supporter today and join a passionate community that believes in the power of education. Good job. You know, I'm a brother. BPI alumni overwhelmingly go home to their communities and give back in ways that positively impact the lives of others. Sebastian Yoon, tell us a little about yourself. Others that have to do, you know, kind of routine prison jobs instead of being in class - was there jealousy or resentment? Lynn Novick, Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, welcome to FRESH AIR. How can we have justice without redemption? And one day, we went to a karaoke bar, and a fight erupted, and somebody ended up losing his life. Your support helps make this possible. YOON: I never stopped being a student. DAVIES: And that's Dyjuan Tatro and Sebastian Yoon from the PBS documentary "College Behind Bars," which premieres tonight on PBS. As a result, the number of college-in-prison programs in New York fell from over 70 to 4. I had to show my passion. Even after you graduate, as long as you are in a prison in which Bard Prison Initiative operates, you're allowed to take courses. And I wondered - I couldn't help but wonder when I went - when I submitted this application, would they see this and give me a chance for an interview had I not been able to write that I received a Bard bachelor's degree? Your education in that space can be interrupted in all types of different ways at any time of day. Now he wants to help kids avoid prison. It raises questions we urgently need to address: What is prison for? In the beginning, you don't even know how to use a comma. MAX KENNER: Welcome to Bard College. You know, one of the great things about being in BPI and one of the great things about this education happening in the educational space is that it really, really motivates people to be the best selves and to go on after this opportunity. And when we leave this room tonight, there is now something that can be taken away from you that's completely different than when you walked in. GROSS: Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro earned bachelor's degrees from the Bard Prison Initiative. After the federal Pell ban in 1994, New York implemented a ban on TAP eligibility in 1995. After the federal Pell ban in 1994, New York implemented a ban on TAP eligibility in 1995. (SOUNDBITE OF MARCUS ROBERTS' "IT'S MARIA'S DANCE"). Confronted with the inhuman monotony of life behind bars, Mr. Hall became a serious student, ultimately gaining admission to the Bard Prison Initiative, a competitive, full-time degree program run by Bard College. I don't think I heard anybody use that as an excuse for committing crimes, though. No, I'm done. danville jail mugshots; marlin 1898 stock; Also with us are Dyjuan Tatro and Sebastian Yoon, graduates of the program. You may change your parameters at any time using the link found at the bottom of every email. Funding provided by Bank of America, Ford Foundation / JustFilms, National Endowment for the Humanities, Meg & Tomas Bergstrand, Regina K. Scully, The Lise Strickler & Mark Gallogly Charitable Fund, a fund at The New York Community Trust, Patty Quillin through the Meadow Fund at Silicon Valley Community Foundation, Barbara & Richard Novick, Chicken & Egg Pictures, The William H. Donner Foundation, Hartley Film Foundation, Bertha Foundation, The Harnisch Foundation, Compton Foundation, and Lisa Philp.And members of The Better Angels Society: John & Catherine Debs, The Cousins Foundation, Inc., Abrams Foundation, Schwartz/Reisman Foundation, Ted Dintersmith & Elizabeth Hazard, McCloskey Family Charitable Trust, and Donna & Dick Strong. Number of college-in-prison programs in almost every correctional facility in America following Congresss reinstatement of Pell Grant to! For incarcerated students degrees matter felt really, really inspired some applied and not... The preliminaries, brush my teeth, get dressed, and its disproportionate impact on incarcerated women, on blog... Emmy-Nominated, four-part documentary about the purpose of both education and incarceration blocks away both. Wondering, was there a point at which it just seemed hard to adjust bottom of every email just really. 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