Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts and cold-blooded women and were judged on their unusual character. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. In one of them, he knew her name and in another one, she had answered a call and been told to meet someone. It's February 28, 2023, and Luke Schenn was just traded to the . http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php Ask them what they did to a good man. Not in this case. Thanks again. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. If the answer is, to keep the public safe, then I call BS. I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. While these are all good questions, (and were maybe all asked in the jury room during deliberations) I doubt the answers even matter anymore. Substituting reasonable inference and evidence for tarot cards? Thats why Diane wouldnt agree to marry unless Knick first signed a premarital agreement that when they divorced, Knick would take nothing from their marriage. Years later, seven witnesses signed affidavits telling of a man named Jim Haynes continuing confessionthat he wasthe shooter, and his appearance boresimilarities to the sketch. Not that it matters, your opinion is about the case and not subject to geography. That single fact collaborated by a witness, convicts her for me. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. I did not shoot my children.. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. The timing of her arrival at the hospital should have been discussed and explained in more details. Their theory was very shaky. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. These are no facts its partial truths and conjecture. But the birth of little Danny did not make this bad boy change his stripes; he remained a cad and a destabilizing force in their lives. You do not debate the content of the blog which you probably did not read anyway. They both fainted when they saw their dead child, but it did not count. Clearly the social workers were working with the DAs office and taking advice on best interest of the children from them. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. Of course buying drugs with three kids in the middle of the night from a guy like that is not the mindful thing to do, but would be more consistent as an explanation for her actions. Except for Paul Cortez. She could have stayed on the side of the road. In case you did not read the blog: During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. A fair trial is a right in this country, not a judicial suggestion. Yes, dad relinquished his rights but he knew that they loved their grandparents and had allowed Diane to take them for a visit without telling the authorities. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? Christie Downs was eight-years old when she was injured and nine-years old when she testified. I care about the experts reports written about Diane because they know her situation and mental state. They were in a difficult situation becausewithout evidence, they could notcharge her for the crime. The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie Small Sacrifices was known for her epic battles with lover Ryan ONeil. Open ended sentences like this are meant to provide a means of control and public safety when considering dangerous offenders who may pose a continued risk to the public. Conflict of interest on steroids!! They rarely get a break. What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. Maybe someone needs to read Part two in Dr. Billings in-depth review of the Diane Downs Murder Case in Oregon. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued. It kinda scared me, the thought that mommy could shoot me, like this mommy did. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. It was all about Charlene wanting KnickKnick ~wanting Dianeand Diane wanting a return to the peace she had before Knick asked his wife for a divorce. There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. What a terrible injustice. (that one is more of a question). Dilantin is known to cause mental confusion and you can check it online, but consider the dosage she was on and it needs no clarification. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. They would have tried to reopen the case. TIL On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs shot her three children and drove them at 5-7 mph to the hospital. No other shooter involved in her case. Makes no difference to me. Why is there virtually no info on him? Diane changed her story about the stranger on the road. Even put in different hospitals. Her children were obviously more severely injuredbecause being captive in the car while a shooter aimed at them gave them less of a chance to wiggle out of the situation than an adult outside the car. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He still shouldnt have been allowed to adopt them while the appeals process was ongoing, if he had any role in those cases. She had a more than competent attorney and a fair trial before a jury and NOT the same judge who handled the childrens matters. Why was no one in the family given the right to adopt them. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. If you want to defend Diane Downs, more power to you. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled , Ann Rule promotes her books as true crime stories so to this day, viewers believe that the book and the movie titled, This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke , They already had made up their mind that Diane was the perpetrator so they laughed off the idea of the , When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I say. Robert Schlosser, Cathy's father, lives in a 900 . It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. It does seem time has done worse to her. The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. The poor jury went along and Jagger did not put much ofa defense anyway. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. As a result, joint legal custody which means parents share in the decision-making 1 is becoming the default decision in many family court systems. 3) You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. He gave temporary custody to Dr. Wilhite. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. She even provided the police with her own sketch. Her 7 yr old daughter was already dead, her other 2 children were in critical condition. But you dont mention that she again has changed her story.. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. You fail to mention what her daughter actually said about her communication with Diane, like Diane telling her that a very powerful person, a secret man, has been watching her, and that if she loved her son she would move away or else her son will grow up to be a murderer. I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. I am not her advocate, but I think she did not get due process. Hey Jace, I was not going to post your insulting comments but I decided to let the last sentence fly so that I could answer it. Mr. Jagger read the report and said, you were right. It was very unfair to raise them away from their grandparents and other blood relatives. She is still in prison. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. I am quite bothered by what happened in that courtroom and in the media. And she would have been under supervision. Downs wanted to get rid of the kids because her new boyfriend didn't want . 17:40, 1 MAR 2023. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. That is the way she was brought up,especially at the demand of her rigid but verydedicated father. It seems that everyone commenting just knows shes guilty, like you say. Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them. 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