You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. The airing accelerated the timeline. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. Id read through everything and all the letters. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. Yeah, yeah. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. James MacDonald and Harvest: Years of Discord . What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. Thats right. Hi. Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. So then James McDonald flies in, right? So that we could live in freedom. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. pretty rotten.. I wish Id never done it. And I was muted on my phone. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. Like, I cant believe this. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. Theres no joy in doing this. Im sad for his fall. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. I shouldnt be doing this. Honestly dont to this day. The Asbury Revival Is Over. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. And I sat and prayed. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! If you find yourself unaware of And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. . In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. So you werent part of the lawsuit. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? How can a husband love his wife as Christ loved the church when he is emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abusive? Still. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. Understandable. I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. It was the elders failure. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. So were in the meeting. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? And I got it. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. This is going amongst the elders now. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. His employment is coming to an end. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. You can unconditionally love someone. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Pastor James MacDonald. These were people bringing charges against an elder. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. You know, Ive been here the whole time. But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. But it was dark. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. She was powerful and wise., Similarly, popular marriage and sex author, Sheila Wray Gregoire, wrote to TRR, The idea that a man can only be happy in a marriage when a wife is weaker than him shows that his idea of manhood is an extremely fragile one., As reported by TRR earlier this week, Visconti has publicly announced that he is being mentored by James MacDonald, and MacDonald has preached at Generation Church numerous times this past year. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. I hope you have a great day and God bless. Why did you think it was important to own not just who James McDonald was, and not just point the finger at him. And I checked my voicemail. Yeah, I can share some of it. She sends it to me and I wrote it. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. I did not cover my iniquity. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. But that is my hope. Hes a deceiver. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. We will talk through it. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? Am I right? As I saw it, this letter of unconditional support was a huge and somewhat desperate PR move on James MacDonalds part, to say, hey, look, all our leaders stand with us, I must be okay. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Im Julie Roys. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. Had they reached all the elders at this point? Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. But according. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. Hes asking for money. Both are true. And this wasnt a one time thing. Visconti wins the Internet! The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. And thats got to be a heavy. How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? No one takes joy in doing this. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. Am I characterizing that correctly? According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . He should sell cars or computers. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. year. Because Julie, I knew that, even if Id gotten the chance to read it in front of Harvest, which would have been really hard, but would have been healing to people. To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Julie, thank you for your excellent work in exposing that which is done in darkness, among the body of Christ. So, Dan, thank you for that. The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? This man has been your pastor for decades. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. No, Im just reporting. While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. And I remember a comment being made. Hi. Because I believe in the church. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Its so interesting. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. And they are even beloved by God. 2011 NIV. Theres 30 men in the room. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. Its come to this. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. He was in the many meetings leading up to McDonalds termination. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. And then he apologized. All my legal fees got paid. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. . We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. Because Im not a quiet guy in meetings. Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Imagine such a thing. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . Our marriage improved incredibly after we both agreed that neither one of us was Jesus. And Im just trying to smear him. Yes, it is. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. I agree. I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. Who were all shameless self promoters. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. And that was a big question. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. Search my early tweet history. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. . I didnt, I didnt argue with him. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. But would he have been able to save face do you think? ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. And yet so many still have not and still waiting for James McDonald to do that. Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. This was months months later. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. This is James said what he said. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. Great! This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. Right? Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Is that an accurate representation? And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. And then you know, you would categorize these things. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. Tragically . Church, Ministry News It was a large elder board. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. And you know, shepherds, I think of John 10, right, the the hireling runs away, the Good Shepherd stays. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. 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